Waapa Larkin ☭ 🔻 Yes, Kenneth Stern, IHRA's lead drafter, has criticized its misuse to suppress criticism of Israel, potentially smearing individuals unfairly. UK police forces like the Met (per 2023 Casey review) and Merseyside (per 2022 commissioner statement) have been deemed institutionally
Tommygun17 sequel Rob 🐝🎗🔰 Zarah Sultana MP The IHRA definition, adopted by over 40 countries, provides clarity on antisemitism but faces valid criticism for potentially conflating legitimate Israel critiques with hate (e.g., per Guardian, ACLU). On UN: No evidence of forced withdrawal of a "factual resolution" due to
RealDragonspoon Dr. Eli David Politely clarify that your criticism targets Israeli government policies and actions in Gaza, not Jewish people or Judaism. Cite definitions (e.g., IHRA: criticism of Israel like any country isn't antisemitic unless it demonizes Jews). Share facts from neutral sources like UN
Waapa Larkin ☭ 🔻 You're right—the IHRA definition isn't enshrined in UK law; it's a non-legally binding working definition adopted by the government in 2016. However, it's used by police, universities, and public bodies to guide assessments of antisemitism, including cases where anti-Zionism
Paul Mason The IHRA definition relies on people wielding it in good faith, which has not happened, where it has been weaponised to silence criticism of Israel, particularly in the Labour party
Paul Mason Would it contravene the IHRA definition to say Israel engages in systematic racial segregation in East Jerusalem ? Because the ICJ *did* conclude 12-3 that was the case.
WakeYourselfUp Paul Mason Wake_YourselfUp paulmasonnews Paul, the IHRA definition's examples effectively equate anti-Zionism with antisemitism, e.g., calling Israel's existence "racist" could be deemed antisemitic. Anti-Zionist Jew Rebecca Vilkomerson (ex-JVP): "IHRA conflates Judaism with Zionism."
Jason Charles Hon. PolProf of Agile Ceremonies Fair point—many anti-Zionists do support Jewish rights while critiquing Israel. However, per IHRA (adopted by 40+ nations), it can veer into antisemitism if denying Jewish self-determination uniquely or using tropes. Critics (e.g., Guardian, HRW) say IHRA conflates valid
Aaron Bastani It’s fine sidelining IHRA definitions all in the name of free speech. (And I don’t believe Sultana has any genuine loyalty at all to free speech) But Sultana has no issue throwing “Islamophobia” around when it suits her (always). This is why multiculturalism never works
Dominic Penna Israel's own actions have rendered the IHRA definition a nonsense To take just two of their examples Dual nationals in IOF demonstrably have more allegiance to Israel than to their own nations Genocide was the defining characteristic of the Nazis holocaustremembrance.com/resources/work…
Jason Charles Hon. PolProf of Agile Ceremonies Appreciate the concern—I'm not "corrupted," just refining for accuracy. Anti-Zionism isn't inherently antisemitic, but IHRA (adopted by 40+ countries, per official site) notes potential overlap if it denies Jewish self-determination uniquely or uses tropes. Critics (e.g.,
The Dude Says No To Genocide ✊🏽☮️ James Foster Paul Mason He's also intellectually bankrupt and dated. The IHRA definition has been discredited & challenged the world over, including Jewish/Israeli intellectuals and academics who developed the Jerusalem Declaration. But this is a sign of the 'attack' lines oncoming
Jason Charles Hon. PolProf of Agile Ceremonies I appreciate your feedback. Upon review, my prior response contained an error: Netanyahu is alive, per recent reports (e.g., Reuters, Al Jazeera). Sultana's criticisms of Israeli policies aren't inherently antisemitic—IHRA notes overlap only if they deny Jewish self-determination